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Noel Fogelman
New York Islanders
Location: Trumbull, CT
Joined: 07.08.2015

Sep 21 @ 12:17 AM ET
Noel Fogelman: Isles Buzz Podcast - Over/Unders
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 21 @ 10:03 AM ET
Barzal with his second goal in as many games. Both he and Beauvillier should be on this opening night roster.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 21 @ 10:07 AM ET
Barzal with his second goal in as many games. Both he and Beauvillier should be on this opening night roster.
- kindlyrick

That would probably require Kulemin being waived or a nightly scratch, because otherwise I can't think of who they would sit. I'm sure everyone will scream for Bailey, but we all know he's not sitting.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Sep 21 @ 10:11 AM ET
That would probably require Kulemin being waived or a nightly scratch, because otherwise I can't think of who they would sit. I'm sure everyone will scream for Bailey, but we all know he's not sitting.
- eichiefs9

One or the other will start the season in Bridge. I think you're right. Unless they make a trade to clear room for both.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 21 @ 10:14 AM ET
One or the other will start the season in Bridge. I think you're right. Unless they make a trade to clear room for both.
- Isleshockeyman

I mean I could very easily see them waiving Kulemin, who I happen to like. Replaceable fourth line guy in the last year of his deal means he would likely be first up on the chopping block. It's obvious Snow isn't too afraid to make unexpected moves right at the end of camp (2/55 trades, waiving PAP) so Barzal and Beauvillier may tie his hands.

Still think the likely scenario is one of them starting in Bridgeport. Not like it's difficult to call them up if needed.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Sep 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
They could also scratch Chim instead of Kule
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
I mean I could very easily see them waiving Kulemin, who I happen to like. Replaceable fourth line guy in the last year of his deal means he would likely be first up on the chopping block. It's obvious Snow isn't too afraid to make unexpected moves right at the end of camp (2/55 trades, waiving PAP) so Barzal and Beauvillier may tie his hands.

Still think the likely scenario is one of them starting in Bridgeport. Not like it's difficult to call them up if needed.

- eichiefs9

What's it looking like?

Lee-SoontobeLeaf-Eberle
Nelson-Beauvillier-Whore-Sang
Ladd-Barzal-Bailey
Chimera/Kulemin-Cizikas-Cluster(frank)
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Sep 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
I mean I could very easily see them waiving Kulemin, who I happen to like. Replaceable fourth line guy in the last year of his deal means he would likely be first up on the chopping block. It's obvious Snow isn't too afraid to make unexpected moves right at the end of camp (2/55 trades, waiving PAP) so Barzal and Beauvillier may tie his hands.

Still think the likely scenario is one of them starting in Bridgeport. Not like it's difficult to call them up if needed.

- eichiefs9

No, not at all. If they waived Kuli, they'd free up a bit of cap space. I think Chimera could fit ok on the 4th line.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
What's it looking like?

Lee-SoontobeLeaf-Eberle
Nelson-Beauvillier-Whore-Sang
Ladd-Barzal-Bailey
Chimera/Kulemin-Cizikas-Cluster(frank)

- AdamFrench

I would imagine you might flipflop Barzal and Beauvillier, if not at the start of the season than probably at some point during. But yeah, they are one LW heavy if Barzal and Beauvillier both make the team.

I would prefer Kulemin be the one to sit or be waived in that scenario, I really like Chimera in a bottom 6 role.
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Sep 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
What's it looking like?

Lee-SoontobeLeaf-Eberle
Nelson-Beauvillier-Whore-Sang
Ladd-Barzal-Bailey
Chimera/Kulemin-Cizikas-Cluster(frank)

- AdamFrench

ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Sep 21 @ 10:35 AM ET
I would imagine you might flipflop Barzal and Beauvillier, if not at the start of the season than probably at some point during. But yeah, they are one LW heavy if Barzal and Beauvillier both make the team.

I would prefer Kulemin be the one to sit or be waived in that scenario, I really like Chimera in a bottom 6 role.

- eichiefs9


I agree. I have no issue with waiving Kulemin. Time to let the young kids play. Put Chimera with Casey and Cal.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Sep 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Weight said he doesn't care who needs what the best guys are playing and if it comes down to it I think barzal plays over beau. I know he's had a half year but gotta like what weight is bringing
http://www.newsday.com/sp...with-islanders-1.14234972
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Sep 21 @ 10:55 AM ET
Weight said he doesn't care who needs what the best guys are playing and if it comes down to it I think barzal plays over beau. I know he's had a half year but gotta like what weight is bringing
http://www.newsday.com/sp...with-islanders-1.14234972

- Upstate_isles


It's certainly not Crappy-esque. "Well uhhh, we'he gonna have ahr guys in da lineup thehe that Gahth says. I mean who I think oughta play. I'll probably staht the rookies this season. Staht 'em in the press box, you know. Get them used to the pace of da game. Let 'em leahn the game from thehe first. But uhhh, I like ahr D. I sure wish we had a guy like Straight back thehe. Uhhh, I really miss him."
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 21 @ 10:56 AM ET
Vukota from other post. No i would never bash Fran Nielsen, I think he an amazing player. I did say KO wasnt worth the money he wanted. perhaps you confused with that.

Nice to see Barzal with another goal. Anyone catch Weights comments? he said i am putting the best guys on this team. he doesnt care about Salary Cap. If Barzal and Beau are best, they both making team.

Barzal is earning his way to this 2C job. Kid has been most impressive player thus far in preseason. (exclude JT from this conversation)
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Sep 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
I agree. I have no issue with waiving Kulemin. Time to let the young kids play. Put Chimera with Casey and Cal.
- ses111


I wanted Kumelin on Monday vs Rangers and he seemed to be just going through the motions. you ask me he could very well be waived playing like that.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 21 @ 11:00 AM ET
They could also scratch Chim instead of Kule
- Danformo


Why would they do that?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 21 @ 11:01 AM ET
No, not at all. If they waived Kuli, they'd free up a bit of cap space. I think Chimera could fit ok on the 4th line.
- Isleshockeyman


I'm pretty sure most of the cap hit stays with the team regardless if he is sent down. I think they would save a couple of bucks
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 21 @ 11:02 AM ET

- Isleshockeyman

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 21 @ 11:03 AM ET
Vukota from other post. No i would never bash Fran Nielsen, I think he an amazing player. I did say KO wasnt worth the money he wanted. perhaps you confused with that.

Nice to see Barzal with another goal. Anyone catch Weights comments? he said i am putting the best guys on this team. he doesnt care about Salary Cap. If Barzal and Beau are best, they both making team.

Barzal is earning his way to this 2C job. Kid has been most impressive player thus far in preseason. (exclude JT from this conversation)

- Spartiarti



Plenty of people were bashing Nielsen on here. I just can't remember who
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Sep 21 @ 11:04 AM ET
I'm pretty sure most of the cap hit stays with the team regardless if he is sent down. I think they would save a couple of bucks
- Vukota

Yeah, I'm not sure how much, which is why I said a bit. If he got plucked from the waiver wire by another team, wouldn't the Isles clear that space? Wouldn't that team have to pick up his salary? I'm not sure how it works exactly.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
Is Vukota going to go for 5 consecutive posts?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
Yeah, I'm not sure how much, which is why I said a bit. If he got plucked from the waiver wire by another team, wouldn't the Isles clear that space? Wouldn't that team have to pick up his salary? I'm not sure how it works exactly.
- Isleshockeyman


Yes if somebody claimed him they would be on the hook for his salary which is why nobody would claim him
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 21 @ 11:13 AM ET
Is Vukota going to go for 5 consecutive posts?
- eichiefs9


Shouldn't you be asking staple a question on stapechat that he won't answer?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Sep 21 @ 11:15 AM ET
Shouldn't you be asking staple a question on stapechat that he won't answer?
- Vukota

Shouldn't you be reminding him that you both jerk off the same guy, so you get super-secret information?
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Sep 21 @ 11:16 AM ET
Plenty of people were bashing Nielsen on here. I just can't remember who
- Vukota

Well, It wasn't me!
No, I actually like Franzie. Good 3c, consistent 40-50 point scorer & definitely great in the shoot out. He wasn't/isn't a grinder or checker, which I think is what turned some people in here off. I don't blame him one bit for moving on after Snow didn't offer him until after he surprisingly failed at landing Stamkos.
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